Comments on: Greensboro’s Political Compass, Version 3 http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of an unnecessary blog, or prohibiting the free posting therein. Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:25:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Blogsboro Political Landscape at connecting*the*dots http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22313 Blogsboro Political Landscape at connecting*the*dots Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:16:36 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-22313 [...] PotatoStew of Plead the First has been tracking the political leaning of bloggers from Greensboro for the past month or so. The results are pretty interesting: [...] [...] PotatoStew of Plead the First has been tracking the political leaning of bloggers from Greensboro for the past month or so. The results are pretty interesting: [...]

]]> By: David Boyd http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-15232 David Boyd Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:30:39 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-15232 <strong>Milton Friedman, RIP...</strong> AP: Milton Friedman, the Nobel Prize-winning economist who advocated an unfettered free market and had the ear of Presidents Nixon, Ford and Reagan,...... Milton Friedman, RIP…

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Milton Friedman, the Nobel Prize-winning economist who advocated an unfettered free market and had the ear of Presidents Nixon, Ford and Reagan,……

]]> By: Chip Atkinson http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-485 Chip Atkinson Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:37:25 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-485 my score places me at the very same spot as -surprise- mr. stench. my score places me at the very same spot as -surprise- mr. stench.

]]> By: PotatoStew http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-358 PotatoStew Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:57:55 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-358 Bring a raincoat to the next blogger meetup, and remember that you said that. ;) Bring a raincoat to the next blogger meetup, and remember that you said that. ;)

]]> By: Cara Michele http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-357 Cara Michele Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:09:29 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-357 Why don't we just have a water balloon fight? Why don’t we just have a water balloon fight?

]]> By: PotatoStew http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-356 PotatoStew Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:26:16 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-356 Michele, I agree that if you take either "Liberal" or "Conservative" <em>as a whole</em> that there is too much "baggage" and neither would fit Jesus. I'm arguing for a much more limited comparison, that Jesus' own attitudes more often than not are traditionally liberal attitudes. I'm definitely not saying that he displays all or even most or the viewpoints associated with liberals. So, in short, you're right, and I agree with you when you say "The attitudes associated with each have too much non-Jesus-like baggage associated with them to stretch to fit Him", but I think I'm saying something different than what you think I'm saying. :) However, if you still feel like you'd prefer to agree to disagree, I'm agreeable to that. Michele, I agree that if you take either “Liberal” or “Conservative” as a whole that there is too much “baggage” and neither would fit Jesus. I’m arguing for a much more limited comparison, that Jesus’ own attitudes more often than not are traditionally liberal attitudes. I’m definitely not saying that he displays all or even most or the viewpoints associated with liberals.

So, in short, you’re right, and I agree with you when you say “The attitudes associated with each have too much non-Jesus-like baggage associated with them to stretch to fit Him”, but I think I’m saying something different than what you think I’m saying. :)

However, if you still feel like you’d prefer to agree to disagree, I’m agreeable to that.

]]> By: Cara Michele http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355 Cara Michele Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:39:51 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-355 <i>"I have a feeling that if you look at his specific teachings and behavior as presented in the Bible, more often than not you would be looking at attitudes that match more closely with what we call “Liberalâ€? today."</i> I do spend a good bit of time studying Scripture and I still conclude that "liberal" doesn't fit Jesus any better than "conservative" does. (Although both sides often lay claim to Him.) The attitudes associated with each have too much non-Jesus-like baggage associated with them to stretch to fit Him. But we can agree to disagree on this. No problem. :) And thanks for the suggestions, Brenda, but I'm a contented "non-denominator." ;) “I have a feeling that if you look at his specific teachings and behavior as presented in the Bible, more often than not you would be looking at attitudes that match more closely with what we call “Liberalâ€? today.”

I do spend a good bit of time studying Scripture and I still conclude that “liberal” doesn’t fit Jesus any better than “conservative” does. (Although both sides often lay claim to Him.) The attitudes associated with each have too much non-Jesus-like baggage associated with them to stretch to fit Him. But we can agree to disagree on this. No problem. :)

And thanks for the suggestions, Brenda, but I’m a contented “non-denominator.” ;)

]]> By: Brenda Bowers http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-354 Brenda Bowers Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:29:42 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-354 Cara Michele, Several religious groups have taken that same view and do not affliate with any secular groups, do not vote or even claim any one country as their own. They are all set up and ready for any new members who want to follow that path. The Amish are "plain living" (that means a couple centruries out of date); the Jehovah's Witnesses are very modern. This is just two of many. But, I'm with Potatoe Stew because I believe Jesus would very definitely be a liberal. Cara Michele, Several religious groups have taken that same view and do not affliate with any secular groups, do not vote or even claim any one country as their own. They are all set up and ready for any new members who want to follow that path. The Amish are “plain living” (that means a couple centruries out of date); the Jehovah’s Witnesses are very modern. This is just two of many. But, I’m with Potatoe Stew because I believe Jesus would very definitely be a liberal.

]]> By: PotatoStew http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-353 PotatoStew Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:18:34 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-353 Sam: Out of curiosity, which parts of that description do you feel are inaccurate, and is the issue more with the concepts, or the way the description is phrased? I noticed that most of the non-libertarian descriptions from that quiz seemed to be worded with slightly negative connotations. Michele: "Radical" and "Liberal" are not mutually exclusive. I'm skeptical that if Jesus were walking around today that he'd self-identify as "Liberal", however, I have a feeling that if you look at his specific teachings and behavior as presented in the Bible, more often than not you would be looking at attitudes that match more closely with what we call "Liberal" today. At any rate, it would be very cool if we could get Him to take the Political Compass quiz. I'd definitely draw up one more version for that. Sam: Out of curiosity, which parts of that description do you feel are inaccurate, and is the issue more with the concepts, or the way the description is phrased? I noticed that most of the non-libertarian descriptions from that quiz seemed to be worded with slightly negative connotations.

Michele: “Radical” and “Liberal” are not mutually exclusive. I’m skeptical that if Jesus were walking around today that he’d self-identify as “Liberal”, however, I have a feeling that if you look at his specific teachings and behavior as presented in the Bible, more often than not you would be looking at attitudes that match more closely with what we call “Liberal” today.

At any rate, it would be very cool if we could get Him to take the Political Compass quiz. I’d definitely draw up one more version for that.

]]> By: Cara Michele http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/03/12/greensboros-political-compass-version-3/comment-page-1/#comment-352 Cara Michele Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:47:33 +0000 http://www.pleadthefirst.com/?p=101#comment-352 <i>"Jesus was a liberal, right?"</i> Ah, no. Jesus was a radical. He fits no political description or definition that I've ever heard. That's why, as a follower of His, I find it impossible to identify with any political party or ideology. I've been reading a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006062213X/002-4101380-0268809?v=glance&n=283155" rel="nofollow">biography of missionary Jim Elliot</a> and his view of politics has really challenged me. Jim believed that Christ's followers have abandoned all national and political because we are citizens of heaven (Heb. 13:14, Phil. 2:20) and thus, we should have nothing to do with politics. I must say, that appeals to me. Both liberal and conservative political theology strays widely from the teachings of Jesus Christ. “Jesus was a liberal, right?”

Ah, no. Jesus was a radical. He fits no political description or definition that I’ve ever heard. That’s why, as a follower of His, I find it impossible to identify with any political party or ideology.

I’ve been reading a biography of missionary Jim Elliot and his view of politics has really challenged me. Jim believed that Christ’s followers have abandoned all national and political because we are citizens of heaven (Heb. 13:14, Phil. 2:20) and thus, we should have nothing to do with politics. I must say, that appeals to me. Both liberal and conservative political theology strays widely from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

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