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	<title>Comments on: The ACLU Defending Christians</title>
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		<title>By: PotatoStew</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/12/14/the-aclu-defending-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-18852</link>
		<dc:creator>PotatoStew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, he was saying that. But I think he also suggested what I mentioned: When presented with the possibility of the prayers being opened up to other faiths, he said, &quot;But given RochÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s good questions, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d rather deal with a privatized religion that expose my children or those present at a city meeting to Hindu chants or slaughtered chickens or a Wiccan priest or whatever.&quot; I took that to mean that he thought that under the circumstances it might be better to have no prayer at the meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, he was saying that. But I think he also suggested what I mentioned: When presented with the possibility of the prayers being opened up to other faiths, he said, &#8220;But given RochÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s good questions, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d rather deal with a privatized religion that expose my children or those present at a city meeting to Hindu chants or slaughtered chickens or a Wiccan priest or whatever.&#8221; I took that to mean that he thought that under the circumstances it might be better to have no prayer at the meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: meblogin</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2006/12/14/the-aclu-defending-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-18844</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you are taking Joel out of context...though he is quite capable of correcting if needed.

I believe Joel is saying clearly....if you are going to force me to pray a particular way...then the answer is no.

Do you really believe he intended to say otherwise?

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you are taking Joel out of context&#8230;though he is quite capable of correcting if needed.</p>
<p>I believe Joel is saying clearly&#8230;.if you are going to force me to pray a particular way&#8230;then the answer is no.</p>
<p>Do you really believe he intended to say otherwise?</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: PotatoStew</title>
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		<dc:creator>PotatoStew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a related topic, but I don&#039;t see it as continuing the specifics of the High Point thread.

As for wording - I don&#039;t think there is specific wording for the prayer as a whole, per se. More a matter of using a more inclusive term for God, and not endorsing any specific theology.

As Joel and others suggested, the best course may be to not have our city officials praying as a group as a part of their business activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a related topic, but I don&#8217;t see it as continuing the specifics of the High Point thread.</p>
<p>As for wording &#8211; I don&#8217;t think there is specific wording for the prayer as a whole, per se. More a matter of using a more inclusive term for God, and not endorsing any specific theology.</p>
<p>As Joel and others suggested, the best course may be to not have our city officials praying as a group as a part of their business activities.</p>
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		<title>By: meblogin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

So are we sorta continuing the High Point thread?

If so, maybe we need to start with the wording that the council is supposed to use.  Can you find it?

It would appear to me when government starts directing how prayer is said that a reverse conflict has happened.

(glad to see ACLU not on a secular rampage)

This is interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>So are we sorta continuing the High Point thread?</p>
<p>If so, maybe we need to start with the wording that the council is supposed to use.  Can you find it?</p>
<p>It would appear to me when government starts directing how prayer is said that a reverse conflict has happened.</p>
<p>(glad to see ACLU not on a secular rampage)</p>
<p>This is interesting stuff.</p>
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