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	<title>Comments on: Republican Double Standard on Minority Bill of Rights</title>
	<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/</link>
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		<title>By: PotatoStew</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21973</link>
		<dc:creator>PotatoStew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21973</guid>
		<description>Jim: I've been looking, but haven't found it yet.

Jeremy: It is important, but only goes so far. For instance, Rep David Dreier was quoted as being "very disappointed" that the Dems haven't implemented the MBoR yet. The original article I linked to mentioned Dreier:

"Rules Committee Chairman David Dreier (R-Calif.) said in an interview that Democrats are crying about the process because they are losing policy debates over job creation and progress in Iraq. His mission as chairman, he said, is 'to move our [Republican] agenda, and to do it in the fairest and most responsible way possible. And I do it in that order.'"

So, yes, some of the representatives and leaders in question are different. But many are the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: I&#8217;ve been looking, but haven&#8217;t found it yet.</p>
<p>Jeremy: It is important, but only goes so far. For instance, Rep David Dreier was quoted as being &#8220;very disappointed&#8221; that the Dems haven&#8217;t implemented the MBoR yet. The original article I linked to mentioned Dreier:</p>
<p>&#8220;Rules Committee Chairman David Dreier (R-Calif.) said in an interview that Democrats are crying about the process because they are losing policy debates over job creation and progress in Iraq. His mission as chairman, he said, is &#8216;to move our [Republican] agenda, and to do it in the fairest and most responsible way possible. And I do it in that order.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>So, yes, some of the representatives and leaders in question are different. But many are the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Caserta</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21807</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Caserta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21807</guid>
		<description>Does anyone have access or link to the original MBoR, or a text version of the Republican letter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have access or link to the original MBoR, or a text version of the Republican letter?</p>
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		<title>By: meblogin</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21682</link>
		<dc:creator>meblogin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21682</guid>
		<description>Interesting post...thanks

Find the middle and move forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post&#8230;thanks</p>
<p>Find the middle and move forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21552</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21552</guid>
		<description>To be completely fair, this is a double standard on BOTH sides. The United States House of Representatives and the 110th Congress once again proven that power and politics dominate Washington, not principle and sound legislation.

The Minority Bill of Rights (H Res. 6), originally proposed by Democrats in the 109th Republican-controlled Congress was opposed by the GOP, of whom had a majority. Now, Republicans being in the minority, proposed practically the exact same bill, of which Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi helped author, voted against it. - Well, they didn't "vote" against, but they voted not to even discuss it.

Politicians want the minority to have rights when they are in the minority. When they are in the majority - they don't care. Not one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be completely fair, this is a double standard on BOTH sides. The United States House of Representatives and the 110th Congress once again proven that power and politics dominate Washington, not principle and sound legislation.</p>
<p>The Minority Bill of Rights (H Res. 6), originally proposed by Democrats in the 109th Republican-controlled Congress was opposed by the GOP, of whom had a majority. Now, Republicans being in the minority, proposed practically the exact same bill, of which Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi helped author, voted against it. - Well, they didn&#8217;t &#8220;vote&#8221; against, but they voted not to even discuss it.</p>
<p>Politicians want the minority to have rights when they are in the minority. When they are in the majority - they don&#8217;t care. Not one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21545</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Majority Leader is John Boehner. He was not in leadership in 2004 or 2005. He came in when Tom Delay stepped down. Denny Hastert is also not in leadership anymore. Roy Blunt is still Minority Whip, but the reason for electing Boehner was because he was distanced from the Delay/Hastert regime. He is now in charge, and I think that's important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Majority Leader is John Boehner. He was not in leadership in 2004 or 2005. He came in when Tom Delay stepped down. Denny Hastert is also not in leadership anymore. Roy Blunt is still Minority Whip, but the reason for electing Boehner was because he was distanced from the Delay/Hastert regime. He is now in charge, and I think that&#8217;s important.</p>
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		<title>By: PotatoStew</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21525</link>
		<dc:creator>PotatoStew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21525</guid>
		<description>Hi Jeremy - thanks for the comment.

"To be fair, these are different Republicans doing this than the ones who rejected it before. John Boehner is in charge of the Republicans now, not Denny Hastert and Tom Delay."

That's true, but only to an extent. Pelosi's proposal was only in 2004. Despite losing seats in the last election, I sincerely doubt the Republican congressional lineup is that drastically different only two years later.

"that doesn’t mean that it’s ok for Pelosi to say this and then go back on it when she doesn’t want to hold herself to what she expected of others."

Absolutely, and I said as much in my original post. It's an underhanded ploy by the Republicans, but Pelosi will still be exhibiting a double standard if she refuses the proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeremy - thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>&#8220;To be fair, these are different Republicans doing this than the ones who rejected it before. John Boehner is in charge of the Republicans now, not Denny Hastert and Tom Delay.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true, but only to an extent. Pelosi&#8217;s proposal was only in 2004. Despite losing seats in the last election, I sincerely doubt the Republican congressional lineup is that drastically different only two years later.</p>
<p>&#8220;that doesn’t mean that it’s ok for Pelosi to say this and then go back on it when she doesn’t want to hold herself to what she expected of others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, and I said as much in my original post. It&#8217;s an underhanded ploy by the Republicans, but Pelosi will still be exhibiting a double standard if she refuses the proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21428</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21428</guid>
		<description>To be fair, these are different Republicans doing this than the ones who rejected it before. John Boehner is in charge of the Republicans now, not Denny Hastert and Tom Delay. It's true that certain Republicans have no right to expect this given the way they endorsed the old way of doing things, but that doesn't mean that it's ok for Pelosi to say this and then go back on it when she doesn't want to hold herself to what she expected of others. That's hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, these are different Republicans doing this than the ones who rejected it before. John Boehner is in charge of the Republicans now, not Denny Hastert and Tom Delay. It&#8217;s true that certain Republicans have no right to expect this given the way they endorsed the old way of doing things, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that it&#8217;s ok for Pelosi to say this and then go back on it when she doesn&#8217;t want to hold herself to what she expected of others. That&#8217;s hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: PotatoStew</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21409</link>
		<dc:creator>PotatoStew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21409</guid>
		<description>Kirk: Well said. It'll be interesting to see how Pelosi handles this.

Joe: Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately, much of the bad behavior we see is not exclusive to one side or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk: Well said. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how Pelosi handles this.</p>
<p>Joe: Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately, much of the bad behavior we see is not exclusive to one side or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Guarino</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21405</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Guarino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21405</guid>
		<description>I agree, Kirk.  Anthony, I was referring to the practice of "running roughshod over the minority."  This was happening to Republicans for a long time prior to 1994, and it was one of their major grievances.  They fixed the problem for a period of time when they attained power, by my recollection; but in more recent years apparently regressed in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Kirk.  Anthony, I was referring to the practice of &#8220;running roughshod over the minority.&#8221;  This was happening to Republicans for a long time prior to 1994, and it was one of their major grievances.  They fixed the problem for a period of time when they attained power, by my recollection; but in more recent years apparently regressed in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk D.</title>
		<link>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21358</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pleadthefirst.com/2007/01/03/republican-double-standard-on-minority-bill-of-rights/#comment-21358</guid>
		<description>I read this today on Digby and I think it aptly describes why I am a Democrat as well:

"I am a liberal because it is the political philosophy of freedom and equality. And I am a progressive because it is the political path to a better future. And I am a Democrat because it is the political party that believes in freedom, equality and progress."

And if that means giving the other guys a fair shake, then I'm all for that. There is a part of me that wants to stick it to the right as bad (or worse) than they gave it, but that is not the way of morality and civility. Treat others as you would have them treat you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this today on Digby and I think it aptly describes why I am a Democrat as well:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am a liberal because it is the political philosophy of freedom and equality. And I am a progressive because it is the political path to a better future. And I am a Democrat because it is the political party that believes in freedom, equality and progress.&#8221;</p>
<p>And if that means giving the other guys a fair shake, then I&#8217;m all for that. There is a part of me that wants to stick it to the right as bad (or worse) than they gave it, but that is not the way of morality and civility. Treat others as you would have them treat you.</p>
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